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giles b



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:26 am    Post subject: Trackmaster Thomas coaches Reply with quote

I saw some of these coaches a while ago at a show and dismissed them as being an in-between scale. Having thought about it some more, I wonder if in fact there is some conversion potential in the older-looking compartment coaches, if not for quarter inch scale, then perhaps for Sn3.

Has anyone with children got any examples they would be prepared to measure, and post the results here, please? I know the under-frame needs replacing but would be interested in the length, width, body height and door height.

Many thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be interested to know what scale these Tomy Thomas things could fit into too.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOMY-TRACKMASTER-THOMAS-RARE-BANETSU-MONOGATARI-TRAIN-COACH-IMPORT-RETIRED-/161284673327?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item258d50cf2f

[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/ixAAAOxyeZNTWMr9/$_57.JPG[/img]



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOMY-TRACKMASTER-THOMAS-TRAINS-VERY-RARE-JAPAN-RAIL-PASSENGER-COACH-OPENS-UP-C2-/161253254739?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item258b716653









http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOMY-TRACKMASTER-THOMAS-TRAINS-VERY-RARE-JAPAN-RAIL-PASSENGER-COACH-OPENS-UP-/161248395978?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item258b2742ca


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOMY-TRACKMASTER-TOMICA-THOMAS-TRAINS-VERY-RARE-JAPAN-RAIL-EF81-LOCO-SILVER-/161117518911?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item25835a3c3f


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Blackcloud Railways



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not got the Annie and Clarabel coaches, but we have got a Diesel 10. I presume the loading gauge will be similar.


Compared with Bachmann On30 freight stock.


Compared with OO. Not far out but a bit too wide.


My On30 Wickham trolley started life as a Trackmaster Caboose, runs on an Underground Ernie mechanism.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comparison pictures, Bob. Assuming Annie & Clarabel are the same size, they look about right for 00 gauge, although my memory is they're a little wider than scale. Heightwise, about right if you were to put a coach from c. 1880 next to a diesel from the 1960s.

However it looks like my hope of something around Sn3 or 1/48th scale is a little off the mark. Shame as some of the items, while a bit weird, do look like they might have chopping potential,
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are talking Chuggington toys with "Ludorum" written on the bottom of them.

Slightly too narrow for running with Bachmann stock, but that doesn't rule them
out completely. The Peco van is a better match for the loading gauge.



The loco shown on the FCPyF is motorised and keeps the kids amused by
pulling an Underground Ernie "Bakerloo" trailer coach. On the subject of
which, "Jubilee" has potential for conversion to a lightweight railcar set.
I have a couple that used to run as a four-set on the Ferrocarril Internacional
and still see occasional use on the FCPyF. I had intended to convert them but
they got such a good reaction from youngsters at shows that I left them in
their original condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEveFlH-yPQ

PS, before dismissing the Chuggington locos as too small for On30 just
check the height of the cab on this loco. Wink
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4046/4581911093_0059f91ba4_m.jpg
The crews need to duck as they enter the cab, but they sit down to drive
so the restricted headroom is not really a problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some cheap battery op train sets in one of the low cost shops a couple of years ago, and the coaches are bigger, possibly On30. I think Poundworld still sells them.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just goes to show one can't ignore the toy-shop end of the market.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or car boot sales! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackcloud Railways wrote:



Compared with OO. Not far out but a bit wide.

Okay, hands up everyone who had the same thoughts as me with this picture...
1. It was a Playcraft North British diesel.... Razz
2. It's almost as realistic as the old Triang 37 anyway...... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Blue Diesel" as Charlie calls it is one of his favourites. It also has the
magnetic enhanced traction so it will pull just about anything you want it to
and picks up power a lot better than the modern, lightweight plastic chassis,
locos. That's all it needs to do for Charlie, he doesn't know what the real
thing looks like anyway.

I used to have one of those Playcraft NBL diesels when I was still at school.
Its drive was by spur gears, no worm, this combined with the huge can
motor that acted like a flywheel meant that it would coast over dirty track
and dead frogs. Yes, it looked awful but it was a superb runner.

What counts more for a youngster's enjoyment of his train set, what it looks
like or if it runs? Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackcloud Railways wrote:


What counts more for a youngster's enjoyment of his train set, what it looks
like or if it runs? Wink

Agree entirely Bob; in fact I'd go so far as to say that's true for all of us - running quality is far more important than looks any day! A not-absolutely-accurate loco can be a pleasure to use if it runs well; a detailed-to-death loco will be nothing but a pain if it stalls, derails, & can't move smoothly.
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