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Blackcloud Railways



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new diesel is wonderful and could well spawn a classmate operating much further south. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlemen

The Bonnet of this latest Diesel loco, look very John Fowler (Leeds), later part of the Hunslet group so could be a British Built class of NG Diesels sold world wide.

This is not far from the truth the one of the world 1st Diesel loco was built by Hudswell Clarke a NG 2-6-2 Junin for Chile. I have seen this loco as it preserved at Armley Mill Museum Leeds. I have a few photos of it. I tried to included my photos in this post. Looking at them tired to photo alot of the detail like cab, very open almost steam era, connecting rods.


http://www.leedsengine.info/leeds/histhc.asp

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22064102@N07/6690038767
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackcloud Railways wrote:
The new diesel is wonderful and could well spawn a classmate operating much further south. Cool


Thanks, Bob, and why not? If it came from Fowler's (thanks, Ian, for that hint) they could turn another out easily enough. I'd always imagined the FC Norte was supplied by British firms, and wanted to make the diesel look as if it might have been built in the early post WW2 period. Using the Triang model as a base helped, I think. I don't know if their Dock shunter was a copy of something real, but with its rounded bodywork it does also mirror some of the US diesel styling of much the same period.

At the back of my mind was a centre-cab diesel I saw on a preservation line in France - must see if I can find the photos, which are lurking in the loft.
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Blackcloud Railways



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking Ian's comments about the Chilean 2-6-2 into consideration but wanting something not quite so antiquated, because the FCPyF would have been later taking up diesel traction, I have on hand a single dock shunter bonnet (once part of a Gn15 loco) and have just offered it up to a Hornby Jinty style chassis. Two bonnets, back to back, with a slightly shorter cab than Giles's loco would make a rod-connected 6w diesel looking vaguely like an older, narrow gauge, version of this...



The Tri-ang dock loco's rounded body style is, in my opinion, reminiscent of Alco's RS series locos so the FCPyF centre cab would probably date from the early 1940s.

http://www.quartoknows.com/blog/quartodrives/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/05/vintageanddiesellocomotives5.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlemen

This is the type of John Fowler I mean from the Impetus Class which come from the 1950's, bonnets would be larger for Narrow gauge rather than standard gauge. So guess there the link to early 50's Alco RS-2 or 3. Also found the link to Paxman engine locos around the world.




http://www.paxmanhistory.org.uk/worldrly.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very close, isn't it, Ian. Doesn't take a great leap of imagination to add a second bonnet and put it on a bogie chassis. Even the cab is pretty close. Thanks for posting.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did somebody mention an odd looking vintage 2-4-2 Latin American diesel loco?



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http://playingtrains.wordpress.com/2017/10/25/wednesday-whimsy/
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the warning horn on your conversion, Bob, reminds me to re-fit the two horns on my diesel, before they get knocked off the work-bench and are never seen again.

Regarding the general look of the loco, I've posted a picture that I remember taking some time ago, on my "Just 'cos I like it" thread. Turns out it's pretty close to what I've modelled - more by luck than planning, I have to admit.
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