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giles b



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fellow operator on Sunday, Chris Ford, took this picture of the layout, which he describes as Our Man in Havana meets Minories.


He always seemed to be at the controls when people came to talk about the models. Apparently one comment was "You can almost smell the dust and dog s***" - well, who wouldn't want to keep a layout with those accolades Laughing
I'd forgotten that there was a probable invitation for 2019, so it looks as if a final decision on Puerto Paseo's future can be left a bit longer.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[b]Which part of the layout, does the aforesaid Mr Ford think looks like a component of a vacuum cleaner?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vacuum cleaners? Our Man in Havana/The Man in the White Suit - am I getting my film references mixed up?? Mr Ford is to be absolved of all blame in this respect; it was a member of the public who passed the second comment, while I was elsewhere at the show. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I won't speak of the film, but in the original Graham Green novel ("Our Man in Havana") sketches of what are supposed to be secret military installations are based on vacuum cleaner parts.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! Thanks for that. I'd been concentrating on the possible Alec Guinness connections. Embarassed Perhaps a broken vacuum cleaner will have to be added to the pile of junk outside the forge.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giles,

Why not a Vacuum cleaning van?

The LT&S example still exists at Mangapps Farm. A spare triang small crane chassis would be very suitable.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=railway+vacuum+cleaning+van&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=f3-Cc0ZR8JNKzM%253A%252CMeoXl-mSGg7U4M%252C_&usg=__fTbJErvnTSDBgxZsd7k_esgHTJQ%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjesMXrrMnaAhUTPsAKHTFVD1UQ9QEIMTAE#imgrc=f3-Cc0ZR8JNKzM:[/url]

If you would like drawings I believe there are some in Midland Wagons Vol 2, by R Essery which I could scan and send to you by email
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or even a narrow gauge version of this...

https://goo.gl/images/i5pxo5
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I'm out of spare crane underframes I shouldn't think a model of one of these vans is likely, just now. What were they used for, and why did they need to be mobile? Station staff must have had dustpans and brooms, and as for carriage cleaning - it seems a bit OTT.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The FC Centro y Oeste's CME having been alerted by his opposite number on the FC Consolidado Pampa y Fernandez to the sale of locomotives by the Baleria Railway, has managed to obtain one of their surplus locomotives. It is a large Mogul, number 136, and possibly built by North British Loco Co.

It should be useful on the Mail trains, as #25 was recently involved in a minor accident and runs rather noisily these days, presaging a visit to the workshops before too long.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been thinking about Puerto Paseo's future; it will probably fit at home as a permanent layout, but suppose a larger space became available.........Stepping through the fantasy door it might become something like this



The present terminus has been turned round, so that a new Docks area is at the front, for ease of shunting access. Outside the docks wall is a short loop, with tracks partially in the street (Paseo Ciudad) which is used for passing railcars and light engines - or one of these and a longer train. Beyond this there could be a sky board between Ciudad and Paseo San Juan, although the railway bridge (shades of the old Palma, Majorca station) might suffice as to differentiate between the two scenes. San Juan station has goods sidings serving the city and the locomotive depot.

Another scenic barrier takes us into Flores, representative of the fishing villages along this part of the coast - the station is almost built on the beach, and the loop is used as a goods siding, although an occasional railcar has to use the avoiding track while another train crosses it.

Around another curve (of sharp radius and partially hidden by a view block) we enter the town of Arenal, where the railcars end their journeys - and use the small shed overnight. This is the junction where the FC Centro y Oeste's trains turn off inland, and the tracks form a triangle, used for engine and railcar turning. There is a shed for a railcar, and perhaps a steam loco for shunting, as well as a shed for a spare coach or two for strengthening trains at peak times. Its track could be secretly extended into the hidden area if increased capacity was needed. Just to mess up these shunting moves a little, the other building alongside the siding is a cheese factory, which sees daily shipments going out across the island. The other exit from the triangle is the Este's continuation to Bahia Grande.

The hidden sidings are used a staging yards and would only need to be pre-set with outgoing trains before an operating session, returning trains merely running into an empty track. Although it would be possible to work through a day's timetable solo the layout could easily employ two, or even three, operators without difficulty.

Ah, well; one can but dream Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

Whatever medication you're on, Giles, it must be good? Smile

{PS, what changes do you plan to make to the mogul [magool?]...to make t look more 'British' in its ancestry?}
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: plan, the timetable already exists, so to some degree dictated what facilities might be found at the various stations.

Not sure about the Mogul comments, Alastair. The loco will belong to the FC Centrale y Oeste, so will have come from America originally. Somewhere along the way it needed an overhaul and went to the Este's shops, where they cast a new British style chimney for it - for better steaming, perhaps (?). Not too good on the technicalities; would that be a likely reason?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The FC Centro y Oeste's CME having been alerted by his opposite number on the FC Consolidado Pampa y Fernandez to the sale of locomotives by the Baleria Railway, has managed to obtain one of their surplus locomotives. It is a large Mogul, number 136, and possibly built by North British Loco Co


Or have I got hold of the wrong end of a stick again?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! Well spotted, Alastair. As you see, I am still a bit hazy about the new loco's past history, having not yet seen it in person. That will teach me to make off the cuff remarks without thinking them through first. Embarassed

I must have been going by the description by the seller that the model was supposed to look as if British-built for colonial service. As far as Isla Blanca's railway history is concerned, this is not actually crucial, and it could indeed have been imported from the USA and subsequently rebuilt.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say...to 'anglicise' the Mogul, would require [front-to-back] a replacement smoke box door, perhaps a change of shape to the cylinders, changes of shape to domes, and maybe rearwards movement of cab [to create a loco-mounted footplate?]. The tender could do with a shape change as well..? Maybe pushing the actual body outwards at the sides & rear? Perhaps making it shorter, more boxy ?
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