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ruedetropal



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone knows of an online drawing for standard BR 16t coal wagon. I can't find anything.
Also any suggestions for other locos, I am only really interested in small steam or other unusual electric/diesel ones. I prefer to be able to find r2r chassis.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at a model of a Nissen hut(Roco Minitrains), wondering what size it was. It was certainly bigger than a basic 16ft wide one.
I had assumed it would be HO scale, but the width , just under 10cm did not correspond to any known size of Nissen hut. They were produced in 16ft, 24ft and 30ft as standard, although there were some bigger ones.
I think the model is actually to 1/76(possibly 1/72) as this fits exactly for a 24ft one.
Now I had been hoping to have one on my British HO layout, so set about resizing my 3D printed one. I think there might be a resin one available(Yeoman models?), but that does not bother me at the moment. I will also look at other versions, knowing these are not available.
The Quonset version is available in HO, I know, but this is slightly different, and is only one version.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been thinking about next loco. One that might be good, as it as also sold into industrial use was the GWR 57xx pannier tank loco. A classic GER/LNER J70 tram loco would be interesting. The GWR Deans goods loco, especially as it was used in France in both WW1 and WW2 a possible. Another possible to start something Irish is an ex LMS Jinty, as EM gauge is close to scale for 5ft 3in gauge. Obviously the Jinty is ideal for models based in England as well.
I have only managed to source drawing online for some, but am off to my house in France next week, and most of my collection of magazines are there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruedetropal wrote:
Just wondering if anyone knows of an online drawing for standard BR 16t coal wagon. I can't find anything.
Also any suggestions for other locos, I am only really interested in small steam or other unusual electric/diesel ones. I prefer to be able to find r2r chassis.

Hi Simon,
Such drawings in Pdf form here: http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html
Scroll down to "British Railways - Diagrams of Freight Stock (1)", open and they're all there between pages 98-103.
HTH,
John.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks John. Odd that this did not show up on my google search.
Now there are so many variations........
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just done a very basic version of 16t wagon body in HO. I am hoping I can modify a chassis to fit.
I am also working on a very simple boxfile layout, well probably will use 2 boxes, with track on the lid, and buildings in box at back.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

link to wagon here. Not for sale yet but I think this link still works
https://www.shapeways.com/product/ZNMCB22ED/?key=ad0b7c734a20b932bb20540c49d49ee1
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, Simon

I know this suggestion is a bit late in the day, but would one of the chassis's from the Bachman Junior Range be suitable for the J94 Austerity
These are based on their American HO Thomas Range. I recall the reviews being very favourable as regards to the running qualities of these.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the wheels on the Bachmann Junior models are too big, and the motor is some is too high.. The current Bachmann O3 chassis just about fits, but it is very close.
I had some of the Thomas locos when they first came out. It was not easy to separate chassis and body, as there were a lot of bits attached to both. Operationally they were not too bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just received latest 3D printed HO models, I have done a standard 16t wagon body in HO. Just need to bodge up a chassis. Otherwise I will have to design one for 3D printing, but more difficult to get to run properly. Suppose I could 3D print just the brake parts.
Also got first section of an HO Nissen hut and one partt of a model of my house in France.
I am thinking of what other locos I could try.One which might fit a Piko 080 chassis might be an LMS 8F, or maybe an austeriry 2-8-0. Would have to accept incorrect cylinders and valve gear. Some austerities ran with 8F wheels so no problem there.

Thinking about other 060 locos, and wondering if the Hornby/Dapol Terrier loco might provide a suitable chassis. HO has really got me interested now. The irony is that it was buying a Lima HO 4F second hand from Peter Lindsay's shop in Exeter 40 years ago that got me back into the hobby. That one got chopped up eventually, but still think one could be upgraded, in particular fitting a better motor in tender.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the essential accessories is road vehicles, and there are some British vehicles available for HO. Look around as prices vary a lot. I have recently found the old EKO range appears to have been rereleaed.
There are some British vehicles in the range. Detail is not as good as some newer models but they are a lot cheaper. Still produced in Spain under the name TOY EKO.
Found dealers in Spain and France in ebay. Just received some from a dealer in Spain, and postage was reduced to same as for one item, so worthwhile. I have some vehicles for my British layout(probably too many now), and some for other HO projects.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not originally intending to have any tender locos, but I had chance to get a Lima 4F at reasonable price. As it was one of hese that got me back nto hobby, it is significant for me. Not bad scale wize, but motor not up to current standards. At 45mm wheelbase, a tricky one , but found that the current Hornby cl90 loco bogie fits, and is not expensive. I think it is actually what Hornby fitted in Lima loco, but not sure. Only the can motor, but good enough and means some of the coal can be removed on tender.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331913090391?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Now I am wondering about a complete new loco, maybe a SR Q1. Will have to compromise on wheels unless I can find ones small enough. Easier might be another favourite for me, the Cottett Goods.
Still looking for suitable tank engine chassis, but might have to compromise.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My latest HO, the common 16t wagon, now with chassis. Hopefully it should fit wheels.


The way I have designed the chassis should mean I can adapt it to a 10ft wheelbase, possibly others.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Simon,
That is looking rather nice! I've found you on shapeways but I can't find this wagon, is it available for sale, please?
Cheers,
John.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, only designed it yesterday, and I am waiting for test sample. Based it partly on Lima dimensions so hopefully fitting wheels should be OK.
Assuming it is OK,I will have it at Leeds exhibition at end of month, but also with my other 3D printing items I am taking to ERA in December.

If I remember I will take it to any exhibitions I visit(Warrington a possibility).
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