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jim s-w



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Birmingham New Street in 4mm scale Reply with quote

Hi All

I am new to this forum so first up a little introduction.

I am 35 years old and live in the UK near Birmingham. I have been modelling to 4mm scale as long as I can remember and to finescale P4 standards since I was 15. My current (and probably only) project is to model the major station nearest my house and the city that surrounds it. The overall layout will be 62 feet long and 20 feet deep and will eventually be exhibited at shows in the UK. What follows are some pictures of my progress so far.



Before I started the main layout I built a small test plank. I knew I could hand build track but I had never built OLE (overhead) before. I also use this as a scenic background for taking pictures and as a programming/test track



The OLE on the plank was OK but for the main layout I needed something better. These are my current pieces.





The main layout is coming along nicely too - here are some pictures of a section of it








All of the track is hand built and all of the structures built from scratch. I hope you like them and feel free to ask any questions.

Regards

Jim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just say welcome to the forum Jim. Smile

What you have done so far looks most impressive, if a tad larger than the layouts most of us have.

The photo of the 86 and 87 looks almost real, as does the last shot, a superb bit of work.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the padlock Jim?

steve Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Peter

Steve, the padlock is on the gate! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]Steve, the padlock is on the gate! Wink [/quote]

So it is!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Believing that everything on the layout should be researched and approached with the same level of care I have spent a few quite enjoyable evenings building a bus stop!

Luckily this design still exists at Stourbridge so it was duly photographed and measured allowing me to produce the sub frame in brass. The windows are clear plastc from a model bus box, coated with Klear floor polish and some coloured with revel clear yellow to represent the fading thee plastic windows tended to suffer.

A spot of work on the path, tiny spots of dark grey depict discarded chewing gum and equally ting spots of beige with an even smaller spot of white give an impression of discarded cigarette butts!



Its a long time since I hand rendered type. Needs a little bit of cleaning up but overall I am pleased with this little scene!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Jim,

Firstly, the modelling is outstanding! It's oft been said that "proto" grade modelling can be hard to sustain accross a "larger layout", but I truly do wish you well in achieving your goal!

62' x 20' for a show layout? I'd be very interested to see/hear about the Exhibition manager that could fit that into the "average" train show hall.

I can only recall 1 layout here in recent memory that was anywhere near those dimensions, it could only be accomodated by the very largest train show in each state, and when last over here on the Eastern side of Oz, was recieved with what could best be described as a "polarising" response,
(IE the crowd either loved it, or hated it, there appeared to be no trace of "grey" in the punter's minds).

I'd also be interested in learning how the average "train show crowd" would be shepperded/encouraged to move around and view such a large layout...

(Oh, and the logistics of transporting and assembling such a beast would also be of interest to regular exhibition layout builders!)

Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Its a good 20 years before the layout will be something like finished and then I will only take it to a maximum of 2 shows a year. Even having said that I have enough invites for shows already to fill up the first 4 years!

I tend to flit between tasks so some areas are highly finished and some are still only on paper (well in the computer!) I also dnt think too much about the layout as a whole as it can be too overwelming.

For the front I estimate half of the track is laid which is just in the 22feet of the station area. See the following pic


Pic Steve Boley and used with permission.

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Jim
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outstanding work!

There was a mammoth OO home layout of New St built in (I think) the early 80s.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davidbromage wrote:
Outstanding work!

There was a mammoth OO home layout of New St built in (I think) the early 80s.

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David

You're probably thinking of "Don's Miniature New Street", David, built by the late Don Jones in Sutton Coldfield. It appeared in an early issue of Model Trains, I seem to recall...

Welcome to MTI, Jim!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jordan

I only saw DMNS once. Sadly Don died last year and his version of New Street is no more!

Thought I might actually do a spot more modelling of trains for a change! Starting with a couple of things that need their Large logo liveries finishing off. 50043 "eagle" was my last 50 and in my era carried the black roof version of the livery. This gave me a chance to try out some of Shawplans extreme etches to correct some of the errors on the Hornby roof. It also meant I could compare the fan meshes.



At the back the original hornby fan
in the middle the previous version of the fan from Shawplan
at the front the new extreme etches version

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All


I wanted to try fitting the shawplan etch for the mesh and ring straight to the roof of a 50 to avoid having to repaint the whole roof! The hole needs opening out a bit but it does work!



In the background is Brians etch for the woven mesh fitted to class 47's (I think he does the welded type too) below is a serious close up!



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Jim
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Sticking with the class 50s for a moment. The following shows 4 of the 5 I currently have 'going through the shop'



From left to right

Conqueror in 'normal' large logo
Eagle in the black roof/red bufferbeam version of large logo
Howe in Original NSE (note the corrected livery from the Hornby version)
Hood in normal large logo

Not shown in Tiger which will also be in the black roof version of large logo

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Fancied a simple quick project but something that fits into the 'out of the ordinary but very ordinary at the same time' folder.

The point of a billboard is to get your attention and most do this quite well, however take away the poster and they kinda disappear into the urban noise. However a normal billboard is just sheets of plywood. Luckily for me the one on the Odeon cinema is a back lit type and I found a picture of it looking pretty derelict with no poster and the innards on show.

So an evening with microstrip and this is the result



Hope you like it

Jim
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Been messing around with the plank again!



Also some more experimentation with long exposures and a single white LED





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