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jim s-w



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a lot of traffic lights at the Hill st/Navigation St Junction. Having found some reference pics of lights from the right era I have drawn up an etch for the heads.



The pic on the right shows the bear carcass. I thought about how to show the lights and came to the conclusion that if they changed and the traffic didnt move that would look odd. By making the turn from Navigation street to up Hill street green but by also blocking the route with a bus at the bus stop I can literally jam up the traffic. Thus giving a reason for the traffic to all be stationary.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Just to keep the thread vaguely on the topic of railways, a few shots of trains!


86252 arrives from the Wolverhapton direction.


There was some booked freight though New Street - Steel was the more common freight you might find. This is 56066 a detailed and repowered Mainline model


47433 is a detailed and repowered Lima model.


this is the first of my (eventual 4) class 310's and 312's. Its built from the Southern Pride Kit


By the era of the layout Derby had just the 1 class 120 left in service. The model is a craftsman conversion of the lima 117

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re freight through New St, I remember being distinctly surprised once when a Class 33 rolled through on a stone train... Shocked Circa 1981-ish I think. "Stone train" as in flat wagons with big blocks of stone chained on, not hoppers with crushed stone. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim s-w wrote:
The pic on the right shows the bear carcass. I thought about how to show the lights and came to the conclusion that if they changed and the traffic didnt move that would look odd. By making the turn from Navigation street to up Hill street green but by also blocking the route with a bus at the bus stop I can literally jam up the traffic. Thus giving a reason for the traffic to all be stationary.


You could have the Daimler Fleetline as being broken down - not uncommon in my experience as a former Midland Red conductor! Just put a seat squab leaning against the back of the engine cover to show that it isn't going anywhere...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keithb wrote:

You could have the Daimler Fleetline as being broken down - not uncommon in my experience as a former Midland Red conductor! Just put a seat squab leaning against the back of the engine cover to show that it isn't going anywhere...


Could do but my layout is an exercise in modelling the mundane. That would be out of the ordinary and as such wont get put on the layout. I appreciate the suggestion though.

A few more pictures










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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Not posted any trains on the layout type pics for a while so to redress the balance...


47088 arrives light engine. This is a bachmann model featuring heljan bogie sideframes and tanks. I still need to correct the boiler port.


47457 departs for the south - this one is a vi-trains model.


50009 heads a line up of 3 more of her classmates. All of my 50's have been lowered and feature new windscreens, roof fans/grills and body side louvres.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

I have finished the 4 waiting rooms at the B end of the platforms.



The benches are DC kits ones trimmed down a bit. I am not sure about the wheeled skips as I think they are too new but I would appreciate anyone who knows about this and can advise.



I have also completed the ramps that were used to move Brute trollies around. These areas and the waiting rooms have swallowed up over 60 benches.



Close up of one of the ramps. while the detail is based on pictures its kind of vague as once the roof is on it will be very hard to see (if at all). The backs of the nearside walls are blank except for the 2 lamps at the far end that you might be able to see (although probably not)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

Been building a simple phone box kit - Its a fair bit bigger in the pic than it is in real life. Note the impression of business cards on the wall. I also added the handset and a representation of a phone book.



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

I thought a quick explanation of how I weather stuff might be of interest (other methods are available). The subject is a Hornby 50 which has had the usual treatment I apply to my class 50 fleet. That being replace the wheels with P4 ones that are the right diameter. Lower it on its bogies, replace the toy like opening bodyside louvres and replace the windscreens and roof fans with those from Extreme etches.

Once all thats done on to the weathering, I use 3 basic techniques and the first is washes. Using a picture of the real loco as a guide I paint the side in odourless turps substitute and work in tiny amounts of paint (enamels) in a method similar to the wet in wet method used for water colours. Its important to keep your streaks vertical unless your prototype pictures show different.



This loco was to be quite scruffy (for me anyway) and I was happy with how the washes came out so I left them there. Usually at this stage I wait 24 hours and then with clean thinners on a cotton bud, do my best to clean the loco (again keeping everything vertical). All I am really doing is replicating what happens in real life, Locos get dirty and are cleaned. The cotton bud cant get everywhere and you end up with build ups of dirt you cant get too, again much like the real thing.

When happy with all that and the loco is dry (best to leave it for a week or so) Its on to the next stage. Airbrushing. Again refer to a photo and check that your particular class doesn't have any weird effects but I usually treat this stage as pretty generic. Using mostly humbrol 110 first to airbrush on brake dust. Followed by a mix of metalcote gunmetal and 110 (with a touch of matt black) to pick out axle boxes and equipment in a sort of dirty grease colour. Finally a mix of Gunmetal and matt black is sprayed over the roof. Always try to think of the direction the dirt hits the real loco and try to copy it. Spraying the brake dust from about 45 degrees below the model. That brings me to the stage in the picture above.

This is OK on the underframe but its also a bit generic. Each class of loco has a characteristic way that the underframe gets dirty and to turn our model from a generic dirty to a model of the real loco we need a bit more work.

This brings me to the third stage, drybrushing. This stage is very subtle and you will think a lot of it vanishes. Again referring to pictures start with the gunmetal and dry brush the top edges of things like steps and springs. this will give you a really subtle glint to the underframe and help put back in a bit of depth that the airbrushing stage flattened out. Also look for places where oil builds up which on a 50 is the base of the axle boxes, parts of the compressor, the main tanks and the battery boxes. Dry brush these on with the gunmetal. Some build up is quite heavy and you can go over these with matt black to enhance them. By now the loco looks like this...



...which is nearly there. The last stage is to add a bit more sheen for which i use the old formula Klear floor polish. You only need a few spots per loco where the oil is still wet, Don't overdo it. What you want is for all this work to disappear! You are looking for subtle glints and sparkles from certain angles that bring the model to life.



You can see a few highlights in this picture, on the compressor and the top edges of the tank. Thats really all you need but it will probably have taken you longer to read this than to do the dry brushing stage anyway so its not like hours of work that will go unnoticed by most people.

Finally a picture that goes some way to explaining the need for reference to prototype pictures.



My rendition of a gresley bogie under my class 304. I had no idea that the bogies get these dark streaks on the sides but they do and they are visible in pretty much all of the class 304 pictures I have. Its a characteristic I could have completely missed.

Hope people find this post useful.

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Jim
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

I have also finished off the retaining wall that goes over the London end tunnel mouth. This has opened up some angles for pictures that I didnt have before.



The newest trains on the layout will be my class 155's. These are modified Dapol models.



A peak waits for its next move while a 150 arrives. The 150 is the Limited edition one from Trians4u fitted with etched window frames.



A class 20 departs for Tysley with a failed class 120. The 120 is a Craftsmann conversion of a Lima 117 and the 20 is lima but fitted with Heljan Baby deltic sideframes (as recommended by my friend Shane)



45012 arrives from the south.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most common questions I get asked when I tell people I am going to model the shopping centre is 'What will we actually see?'  So far I have had to try to describe that the intention is to leave off the rear wall of Platform 12 to give the viewer the impression that they are standing on the platform.  With work complete on all of the canopies for board three I can now just show you what you will see if you ever come to see New Street at a show somewhere.


This is the view from just under the roof at the Wolverhampton end, looking into the station.


The view from the middle of the platforms looking towards the Wolverhampton end





A few signs of life!



Hopefully these views demonstrate why I felt I have to have the roof on as it just wouldn't be New Street without it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All

A few more under the roof pictures.






101 departs ECS for Tysley (with a smidge of photoshop)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent modelling and photographs as usual Jim. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've commented on these pics on another Forum, but was just now looking at them here; my lad saw them - his eyes went Shocked and his word was "Wow!!" Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The picture of the HST and DMU are how I remember New Street: when I look at the DMU Picture I can still smell the fumes...
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